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imacken

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I have a Leo install on 1 HDD and a Cham RC3 boot partition and SL install on another.
Both Leo and SL are booted from the same Cham partition, but I get very different System Info results in System Profiler.
How can this be?  I thought the info was picked up from smbios.plist in Cham/Extras folder.
Any ideas?

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Re: Different System Profiler Info from same Cham RC3 Boot partition?!?
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2009, 01:18:11 AM »
Maybe you have an SMBIOS injector kext installed.

If you see anything besides AppleSMBIOS.kext with SMBIOS in its name, delete it.
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imacken

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Re: Different System Profiler Info from same Cham RC3 Boot partition?!?
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2009, 08:59:13 AM »
No injector used. Only other SMBIOS is the SMBIOS.plist in the Cham boot partition and it makes no difference it it's there or not.

Here are results from 2 terminal commands for the 2 installs:
On my system, I have a Leo 10.5.8 install on one HDD, and a Chameleon boot partition and SL on another HDD. (I also have Windows installed on a 3rd drive, but we'll ignore that.)
The Chameleon partition is used to boot both SL and Leo.

The results are shown below:

1) SL Install

i) From 'system_profiler SPHardwareDataType' :


Hardware Overview:

Model Name: iMac
Model Identifier: iMac8,1
Processor Speed: 3 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 4
L2 Cache: 8 MB
Memory: 4 GB
Bus Speed: 1.33 GHz
Boot ROM Version: IM81.00C1.B00
SMC Version (system): 1.13f3
Serial Number (system): INSERTYOURSHERE
Hardware UUID: B9971346-D2E6-35FE-8DDC-2C87B27B3B36

ii) From 'sysctl -a | grep cpu' :

machdep.cpu.vendor: GenuineIntel
machdep.cpu.brand_string: Intel� Core™2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
machdep.cpu.family: 6
machdep.cpu.model: 15
machdep.cpu.extmodel: 0
machdep.cpu.extfamily: 0
machdep.cpu.stepping: 11


2) Leo Install

i) From 'system_profiler SPHardwareDataType'
:

Hardware Overview:

Model Name: Mac
Model Identifier: iMac8,1
Processor Name: Intel® Core™2 Quad CPU Q6600 @
Processor Speed: 3 GHz
Total Number Of Cores: 4
L2 Cache (per processor): 4 MB
CPU Features: FPU VME DE PSE TSC MSR PAE MCE CX8 APIC SEP MTRR PGE MCA CMOV PAT PSE36 CLFSH DS ACPI MMX FXSR SSE SSE2 SS HTT TM SSE3 MON DSCPL VMX EST TM2 SSSE3 CX16 TPR PDCM
Memory: 4 GB
Bus Speed: 1.33 GHz
Boot ROM Version: MP31.88Z.006C.B05.0802291410 (Apple Inc.)
Serial Number: W1234567890

ii) From 'sysctl -a | grep cpu' :

machdep.cpu.stepping: 11
machdep.cpu.extfamily: 0
machdep.cpu.extmodel: 0
machdep.cpu.model: 15
machdep.cpu.family: 6
machdep.cpu.brand_string: Intel� Core™2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
machdep.cpu.vendor: GenuineIntel


Things I found interesting:
1) the different reporting of the Boot ROM Version, and serial number. I thought that info would all have come from the smbios.plist in the Chameleon/Extra folder.  Where does it come from?
2) the grep output is correct for both.

Any further ideas?

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Re: Different System Profiler Info from same Cham RC3 Boot partition?!?
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2009, 09:56:08 AM »
Looks like you're using some modified DVD to install, and it's not a retail DVD.

imacken

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Re: Different System Profiler Info from same Cham RC3 Boot partition?!?
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2009, 06:14:35 PM »
Nope, it's the retail DVD bought from Amazon.  100% vanilla install except for VoodooHDA.

If you're referring to the serial number in the SL install, then that just comes from the SMBIOS.plist in the Chameleon boot partition. Doesn't make any difference if I remove that file completely.

I do wonder why the Leo install doesn't pick that up as it is booted from the same Cham partition.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2009, 06:17:47 PM by imacken »

imacken

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Re: Different System Profiler Info from same Cham RC3 Boot partition?!?
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2009, 08:59:20 AM »
Any ideas?

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Re: Different System Profiler Info from same Cham RC3 Boot partition?!?
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2009, 11:16:29 AM »
The Leo install DVD is modified.

What is really your issue? What did you really expect to see?

imacken

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Re: Different System Profiler Info from same Cham RC3 Boot partition?!?
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2009, 08:39:30 PM »
What is really your issue? What did you really expect to see?
I expected to see the CPU being reported the same from the same boot partition.
The fact that it's not causes problems with some app installs.

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Re: Different System Profiler Info from same Cham RC3 Boot partition?!?
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2009, 11:20:55 PM »
The only time I have seen System Profiler report the range of CPU features that you mention is when i used to use a distro, iAtkos. Ever since I have used a retail install, I don't get any CPU features listed in System Profiler.
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imacken

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Re: Different System Profiler Info from same Cham RC3 Boot partition?!?
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2009, 09:55:08 AM »
Interesting..
Do you have any issues with installing some apps that don't think you have an Intel CPU, e.g. Silverlight?

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Re: Different System Profiler Info from same Cham RC3 Boot partition?!?
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2009, 10:16:03 AM »
Yes I did. Silverlight needed the 'version check script' removed before installing.

But the point here is, only the Distro showed the CPU features that you mentioned. Therefore it was a modified version of OS X, and it probably used some kind of SMBIOS injector like has already been mentioned here.
« Last Edit: September 26, 2009, 10:21:42 AM by Blackosx »
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imacken

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Re: Different System Profiler Info from same Cham RC3 Boot partition?!?
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2009, 11:10:17 AM »
I take your point, but as you might have noticed I started a thread on this on Insanely Mac and there has been quite a lot of response on this as some people have the 'install issue' and some don't for the same CPU.

It's not so much the reporting of the features, it's more that the incorrect spec may affect functionality like installing some apps (without the workaround) or maybe aspects of the CPU performance.

Only curious!

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Re: Different System Profiler Info from same Cham RC3 Boot partition?!?
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2009, 12:11:05 PM »
Nope, it's the retail DVD bought from Amazon.  100% vanilla install except for VoodooHDA.

If you're referring to the serial number in the SL install, then that just comes from the SMBIOS.plist in the Chameleon boot partition. Doesn't make any difference if I remove that file completely.

I do wonder why the Leo install doesn't pick that up as it is booted from the same Cham partition.

And your Leopard is retail too? you're not using any SMBIOS kexts?

imacken

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Re: Different System Profiler Info from same Cham RC3 Boot partition?!?
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2009, 12:20:57 PM »
Guys, I only asked a simple question!
Maybe the simple answer is that the Leo install uses SMBIOS injectors - as Kabyl has suggested - and being retail, the SL doesn't.
Still, is it not strange that some people have the install issue and others don't with similar rigs?

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Re: Different System Profiler Info from same Cham RC3 Boot partition?!?
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2009, 03:03:33 PM »
Guys, I only asked a simple question!
Maybe the simple answer is that the Leo install uses SMBIOS injectors - as Kabyl has suggested - and being retail, the SL doesn't.
Still, is it not strange that some people have the install issue and others don't with similar rigs?

So I guess you got your answer now? your Leopard was installed using a modified DVD, and considering that we have no idea what was done to it, it might just be using some SMBIOS info modification kext.